Carl Lentz and Mike Signorelli go deep to discuss mental health and spiritual warfare. Mike shares his journey battling trauma, balancing therapy with faith, and dealing with the demonic.

Carl and Mike discuss about how people mislabel things, call everything demonic, and how discernment is needed, especially in ministry. Mike opens up about deliverance, how it's about the person, not just the "demon" and shares how he gets labeled controversial, even within the church, for talking about this stuff.

They also hit on the rise of occult and New Age and how the church needs to have some wisdom about it. So, if you're looking for a real, honest conversation about faith, mental health, and the spiritual world, check this out. You'll get Mike's story, and it's powerful.