In this powerful episode of the Lights On podcast, Carl and Laura Lentz dive deep into some of the most challenging and relatable aspects of their journey. From navigating life in the public eye to the intricacies of rebuilding trust, their candid conversation is packed with insights and humor. 🔹 Why do people go back into ministry so quickly? Carl's take on who’s truly qualified and what it takes to heal will have you questioning everything. 🔹 Therapy Access: Laura opens up about the importance of therapy and what to do when you can’t afford it, sharing eye-opening stats about how few people actually receive help. 🔹 Triggers & Healing: As they approach four years since their most challenging season, Carl and Laura reflect on the journey. Laura’s heartfelt words—"I see your pain because I know it so well"—offer a glimpse into their commitment to healing and growth. 🔹 Marriage Moments: From funny stories about infidelity books to the real talk on handling conflict and intimacy, this episode shows the ups and downs of their marriage with raw vulnerability and a touch of levity. 🔹 Christians & Compassion: Carl discusses why Christians often "shoot their wounded" and his heart for putting the victim first, a topic that challenges the status quo of public perception. 🔹 Access to Phones: Should partners have phone access? Carl and Laura’s honest take on transparency in marriage might surprise you and even go into the FULL disclosure process they did. Don’t miss this episode—it’s an honest, raw, and hopeful look at what it means to grow through pain, rebuild trust, and prioritize what truly matters. 💬 Watch now and be encouraged! 🎧🔥